Oh lawd.

Hmmm.

What's this "Fate/complete material II Character material" I see right below it?

A new Character Material book? That seems more interesting than... whatever that other thing is.

>>99083
Second vol. of Fate/complete material series.

First vol, Art Material, was released two years ago.

finally...

>>99086
You have stronger fingers than I.

>>99082
OH GOD

HNNNNG

>>99084

Oooooh! What's the content like?

>>99096
Well it's not out yet, so nobody knows. Release dat is June 30. It's about damn time. Art Material didn't include Zero, I think? Chances are, this Character Material won't, either, too bad. Releasing a material book on something that's already 6 year old isn't really a bright idea, if it doesn't include Zero - or even FHA, for that matter.

>>99096

It's basically the art from the Visual Novel. The first one had CGs from Realta Nua from each route with explainations on things, as well as the H scenes and weapons/special effects and stuff I think. I bought it with the box set while in Tokyo. And its about time that the second one come out! It should be the character sketches and stuff, at least that's what I'm hoping.

Oh, so no awesome stuff like 'waver velvet is now a long-haired weeaboo' or 'the dress of heaven turns shit into gold'? That's sad.

Since Art Material was just a rehash of the game's CGs, I'd guess Character Material would just be the same profiles and sketches and stuff we've already seen.

Also, DAT TAIL

>>99089
Can't get passed the 2nd lock...what's the point of the locks anyways?

>what's the point of the locks anyways?

>>99086 this i guess

This game is hard....

Okay, my first playthrough is going to be with Caster.

Found some on danbooru

Also this.

Don't forget this one.

Dammit Caster. I don't want to use you on my first playthrough but you're making it very difficult.

>>99192
Didn't want to post something that's already here.

> moe-moe tailed catgirl servant
> GOSHUJIN-SAMA

>>99196
Foxgirl

>>99197
What's the difference?

>>99196
A moe character in a Type-Moon game? Why, that's inconceivable!

>>99198
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox

>>99198
Well, for starters one is derived from felines while the other from canidaes.

>>99199
She was cute type, not "buy shit with me' type.
>>99200
>>99202
Every single girl with an animal ears and/or a tail is a catgirl. Period.

>>99203
Um, no.

>>99204
Yes.

>>99204
Psst, he's trolling.

>>99205
No.

...ugh, why am I even wasting my time on this ? Goodbye.

>>99207
this should help

> I really, really don't like these moe-moe animal ears girls
> Because of this, I am a troll

Just wow.

>>99211
Here's another one !

GODDAMIT INTERNET YOU'RE MAKING ME LOSE MY BONER

STOP IT

WAIT ITS OKAY NOW.

OKAY INTERNET DO WHAT YOU WILL.

>>99211
No, I was referring more to the "cats and foxes are the same thing" thing.

Also, /b/ macros.

New Fate/Extra update today, it's the Male MC's video. Nothing too exciting. More pushing of Male!MCxCaster pairing that's been more prominent to date, although Red Seiba gets some imperious words in.

The only interesting thing is that when Caster first approaches the unconscious hero in that stained-glass looking place most of the Servants seem to make their contracts in, she says "The (rice) harvest god has seen everything! It is still FAR too early for this person to all into Hades/death!"

The question then is if she's refering to herself (there's no one else around and you're unconscious) or just referencing a harvest god (('Ukanomitama No Kami')) of her own. It seems a weird choice of a god to just mention as 'watching you', so it could be a hint to her identity.

>>99228
A foxgirl talking about harvest gods?

My money's on Inari.

>>99231
Waiting for economying with Horo route.

>>99232
slap
Get your own channel.

>>99217

> "cats and foxes are the same thing"

They obviously aren't. I said that catgirls and foxgirls are the same thing.
>>99232

> Horo

Thought the same, lol.

>>99234
Hey guys, get another can of that spray.

Hmmm.That`s Fate Extra,a PSP game which will be
sold at 7.22

>>99248
Er, thanks for the breaking news...

Hmmm...I wonder what they'r talking about...

...maybe another minigame, next time with Saber (........and Achah) ?

>>99251
A comic drawn by the game's artist (in TM Ace).

>>99252

>>99253
Yeaaaaaah really.

http://fate-extra.jp/kiki1/index.html

those hands have the weirdest anatomy i've ever seen

i mean damn hands are the only thing i can draw adequately and those just burn my eyes

>>101180

>hands are the only thing i can draw adequately

What strange planet are you from?

One where hands are designed such that they are not the hardest part of the body to draw?

It won't load for me, goddamn.

Found the images someplace, anyway.

Fucking love this artstyle, haters gonna hate.

>>101218

faces are the hardest for me.

not to say that hands are really easy or anything like that

they're just what i like to draw the most (anatomically speaking) and thus are what i can draw best

because let's be honest

hands are really awesome

Hands aren't as hard to draw as people say they are. The main problem that comes with drawing hand is that you gotta draw them pretty small, and hands are pretty complex leading to fucking up happening a hell lot.

Having a tablet and zooming in so you can focus works, but drawing on paper has its limitations...

>>101232
Hey, there's a reason people say they're so hard. Compared to other body parts, the number of joints and such make it pretty easy to end up with broken-looking hands.

In comparison, animu faces aren't really so hard, considering how simplified they are.

In other news, still waiting for this stupid flash to load. Go to bed already, Japan!

>>101234
Art degree fanboy here but I always say hands are the easiest since you can always look at them for reference.

>>101296

Hands freak me out, personally. I avoid them like the plague, especially because I did pencil and paper which requires steady hands that I do not have. Then again, I haven't done people drawings in a couple of years.

>>101296
Even with references, they still give me more trouble than any other body part.

As someone once said, hands are about as complex as if a body had two little bodies attached to it's wrists.

I don't see how hands are more complex than faces.

Faces have all those muscles and stuff, and that's not counting the subtle expressions. I really have difficulty there.

I guess people consider them easier because you can animu up faces but hands are always really complex?

>>101350
Hands have muscles and stuff too, plus JOINTS, JOINTS EVERYWHERE.

It does depend on if you're drawing realism or cartoon style for faces though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKQkCHsgeQ0&feature=related

DESTOROYAH

It's finally out on internet..

So apparently spoilers are flying up all over the place now.

Well, not here. Yet.

For those interested, the game requires firmware 5.50 gen D3.
It also needs to be patched (but everywhere on internet, it's released patched)

>>101728

Spoilers? Like how Blackmore is a master and his servant is Robin Hood?

So is red Saber Jeanne de Arc or what??? lol
And who is Female pirate?

>>101732

Gender-bent Francis Drake, like pretty much everyone knew as soon as they released that gameplay video with the bit about the Spanish Armada.

Wait, she's actually a genderbent historical figure?

Is it some kind of Fate trademark to have one genderbent historical figure in each Fate property now?

>>101729

>For those interested, the game requires firmware 5.50 gen D3.

So...no 5.03 Prometheus with Gen-C...?

throws TA-088v2 against a wall

DAMMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT

http://www.devils-shadow.com/forums/psp-iso-cso-downloads/81910-fate-extra-patched-all-cf.html

I found this, but can't see the links because registration is required and I'm too lazy for that. Can anyone post the links here?

>>101738
Sorry, when I get this, they only said about this firmware. But I read somewhere that the firmware working are : 5.00 M33-6,5.50 GEN-D3, 5.03 GEN-C
So, your's work

>>101740
Check /jp/ on 4chan for MU link

>>101742

I cant get it to work on my PSP, despite using Prometheus and disabling plain modules in UMD/ISO...hngh.

Will try to change my version.text and umd Iso mode drivers and see if it helps...

...(Damn you Sony and that ALL of PSPs left here have the fucking TA-088v2 board) ;___;

Screw Nasu !
He puts dead end EVERYWHERE !

(spoiler)
Kiritsugu should have invoked Robin Hood instead of Arthur. That damn bastard puts traps everywhere ...

Does anyone have Rider's sprites or even full artwork yet? I have only seen them in scans and have yet to find them in clean.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucius_Artorius_Castus

according to an anon in /jp/, and given the hint that her name starts with "Ru"
this could be her real identity

Arcuied Vi Brunestud orders you...to take her out on a date Shiki!!

also...

...

...and it's over

>>101748

Yeah, that would make a hell of a lot of sense, actually, especially given that "he has been suggested as a potential historical basis for King Arthur"....

NoNeedToInb4 Arc Can Kill Servants Discuss

I am okay with Saber-Extra being LAC, and Saver being Gawain.
But I am NOT okay with Aoko and oldandbustedbluehaired-Touko coexisting in the same room.

>>101755
parallel universes how do they work?

>Saver being Gawain

That a fact?

>>101755

>oldandbustedbluehaired-Touko

I'm sorry, what was that? I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome Blue-haired Toko is.

Is there a torrent for this yet?

>>101759
I'd like a torrent too...

Arcueid is a servant, Shiki killed Arcueid...

/of all discussions

>>101761
But Arcueid is the strongest TM character.

>>101750

Arihiko? Is that you?

>>101763
He seems a bit too ripped though.

>>101749
>>101751

.....

Is that... no... just...kGAAAAH!!! KATO KATO KATO!!!

>>101761
>>101763

He looks more like that Meme Oshino guy from Bakemonogatari. Come to think of it, he's got a lot of knowledge of the supernatural...

>>101759
>>101760
A torrent would be good.

Damn my crappy internet.

>>101748
http://brunhild.sakura.ne.jp/up/src/up454607.txt
Saber's true indentity is Caesar, according to this page.

>>101769
That... says Nero.

I don't even-

>>101769
http://vnsharing.net/forum/showpost.php?p=4058330&postcount=214
Translated the list there, go ahead if you don't mind spoilers & Engrish :))

FUCK YEAH I FAPPED TO CEASER

....

;_; WHY NASU WHY

>>101770

............................

NASUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU--

>>101771
Caesar, Vlad Tepes, Robin Hood, and Lubu? Holy shit this game is awesome.

But genderswap Francis Drake is Rider? I was expecting someone a little more...legendary?

You know, I would have been okay with this.

If Caeber wasn't moe and bouncy from the start, according to that fan-comic. Just... No. At LEAST Arthuria!Saber's got the aloof and cold and professional beginning to her before she became girly and shy and moe - what's Caeber's excuse?

Nasu Kinoko: Moefying manly legendary men since 2004. I can't even USE the word "bastardizing" because it doesn't work.

Dammit, I feel so very trolled.

>>101749
>>101750
>>101751
>>101752
>>101761
When did Nasu damaged his head this badly?

please let this all be trolls...

i was hoping the number of genderbenders was going to go down, not up.

>>101775

>Nero
>manly

Genderbent Ceasar? Holy shit. I've had enough of that. Let trolls be trolls please.

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH

GENDERBENDANS EVERYWHERE

NASUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

Genderbends Genderbends Everywhere

Final boss???

>>101786
WTH Saver ?!

Saber

Assasin

Berserker

WTF Servant

>>101793
This pic.

Archer

>>101795
I dont know.

>>101786

Saver is the Buddha.

What.

>>101796

Who's Robin Hood's Master?

>>101786
final boss in Caster's Route is Buddha?
what's next final Archer's Route is Jesus, Gandhi?
this is truly the game to end all games, I can only begin to imagine the rooster in the probably F/UC sequel, assuming they'll add these new characters (and zero too) as an easter egg

>>101800
Some guy named Dan Blackmore, apparently. Also, how has no one mentioned that fucking Alice in Wonderland is apparently one of the Casters?

>>101791
According to this screen, the guy in the coat is actually not metrosexual Kuzuki, but some guy named "Yurius B. Hahway"(sp?). With Saver-Buddha, Dracula, and now this, I'm lost. I've said it before and I'll say it again: the more info that comes out on this game, the more confused I get.

Lancer is Vlad Tepes?
What? Huh? Huwhat?

>>101802

>>101806
shouldn't Jesus be avenger class?

>>101800
>>101803
It's Don Blackmore (Don is actually a title here)

>>101804
IIRC they said that "Kuzuki" was just a nickname, or false name.

>>101805
It's a different Lancer imo (remember that in this game, there are 128 persons who actually take part in this game)

In short, actually we have :
Main Saber = Nero (genderswaplol)
Main Archer = EMIYA
Main Caster = Tamamo-no-Mae

Foe Saber = Gawain of the round Table
Foe Archer = Robin Hood
Foe Caster = Nursery Rhyme (Alice is the master, but Nursery Rhyme can also represent Alice)
Rider = Francis Drake (genderswaplol)
Lancer(1) = Cú Chulainn
Lancer(2) = Vlad III the Impaler (should be the guy with clown as master on the photo)
Assassin = Li Shuwen
Berserker = Lu Bu
?(Berserker?) = Arcueid

>>101809
Arcueid is berserker

>>101810

>Arcueid is berserker

Arc is some creepy guy's servant? Not even Shiki's? I suddenly started to hate this game with passion...

>>101811
I just met him (after surviving LuBu's WRATH/RAEP). Don't know much what he said, but he seems to be boastful.

(Well, considering he has Arc has a servant, that's pretty normal)

>>101812
That aside, I still can't understand how she managed to become a heroic spirit and a servant. I mean, she doesn't have anything in common with humankind, its will and throne of heroes - how she can become a heroic spirit, when she's a spirit already, directly connected to Gaia btw. Besides, Throne of Heroes and all this counterguardian stuff is some kind of Alaia's defensive mechanism, afair, so - how?

>>101812
I bet it would be a lot of fun if her master were Ciel.

>>101813
People need to understand that the Servants summoned in the war of Fate/Extra don't come from the Throne of Heroes, but from a database on the Moon called Automaton.

Automaton has recorded everything about the planet Earth since ancient times. It's a spiritual cyberspace.

This is why Arcueid can be summoned. Including Buddha, an avatar of god, which aren't supposed to be able to be summoned.

Fate/Extra seems alot more confusing than when I first played Fate/Stay Night.

>>101818
If this true,then how does EMIYA exist in this world? Could it be possible that it records different parallel worlds as well? Maybe this Automaton could of pulled EMIYA from his world and or Gaia. Is EMIYA's personality the same or is it different?

Hey look, she calms down when you beat her.

>>101823
Well like Hercules,when he lost,he regains some of his sanity. He talked to Saber in his final moments so I guess this would count as well

And then she jumps into a portal and vanishes.

Her being the real Arc confirmed?

>>101826
"I must go, my home planet needs me"

>>101822
We don't know for sure, but did you notice that Shirou wasn't here ? (Even though Taiga, Sakura, Rin or the student girls like glasses, black one and simple girl (forgot their name)) are here ?
Maybe Shirou lived past this event, become CG Emiya and was saved into that big computer on the moon. That may explain why Shirou is not here.

>>101823
>>101826
OH YEAH! At least, even here, no one can beat Arcueid... (and certainly NOT a lvl 25 Saber without EVEN using her NP !)

>>101835
But she said she was beaten dude.

>>101826
woo,Arc looks cute here.

What am I looking at?

I thought this game was rated for Teens!

Seems like my Avatar wimped out or something so he didnt get to witness the rest.

Curses I wanted to see him eat some Mollusks!

>>101845
WTF

>>101844
>>101845
so what's this, implied sex scenes?

>>101844
>>101845

Is that supposed to be Sakura?

>>101849
It's Rani.

>>101814
Ciel hates her and Arcueid doesn't really care about Ciel, and just ignores her. It would be troublesome.

Beaten by women and children. Gilgamesh sucks.

>>101875
Gilgamesh? Where?

>>101876
Somebody posted a shot of Gil from F/uc claiming that it's a shot from Extra. Then deleted it.

Dem stats

Does Gawain at least mistakes Nero for Arturia? Because, to him, Arthur should be the Saber we know. Things would come full circle.

>>101878

wut

this is archer we're talking about right

does he get PROTAGONIST MODIFIERS or something

>>101818

oh man that is totally crazy

a digital THRONE OF HEROES

totally crazy maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan

>>101835
This is a complete different universe. It has no relations between Shirou's and this world besides Archer EMIYA connecting them. Rin is Rin in this world(iirc)along with Taiga,Sakura-sensei is Rani-sensei. As for the the trio,I haven't understood their relations to this one's and the Shirou universe.(If it really is not what Arc says,correct me and forget this following part) And if you read >>101826 's pic, and the translation below it,she says she must return to her own world. This can be given many theories about what she is talking about,meaning,this world is an alternate world,the automaton records all known record of Heroes,Villains,Gods,etc even if they're from an alternate universe like Shirou's,Shiki's,etc. From looking at all the stuff posted on /fate/ about Extra,it combines each of Type-moon's novels(Ex.Kara's Touko, Tsuki's Arcueid and Aoko,and just about everything in Fate) In my opinion,if I were to buy a PSP and go to Japan to get Extra, I would name the Protagonist male Shirou and the female Shirouko for shits and giggles if it was possible.

vc:shezz in deed

Torrent where?

Hey guys, anyone know whats up in the battle between Lu Bu and Lancer?

When I watch their battle I get the choice to teleport there, then the battle with Lu Bu starts and the Command Seal shows up, but whatever I push, the Command Seal fades away and my Servant is killed with 600+ per hit -_-;
(I'm pretty sure that it has nothing to do with being underleveled since I beat Caster easily <.<)

>>101908
You get the choice to either FIGHT (or SAVE, i'm not sur what it was, but now I think it's save)
RIN (1st choice)
or RANI (2nd choice)
(Because if you chose 1, you will be on the same side as Rin, or if you chose 2, you will be next to Rani, so it must be mean "save" somehow)

But, in the 2 cases, you have to survive 1 complete turn against Lu Bu.
So, you can spend a Command Seal when the game asks you, it will reveal all the action of Lu Bu for this turn, or you can try without it.

So, I've done both choices with the same pattern (without using Command Seal to see his attacks) :
DEF SKILL BRK SKILL(+heal from master) ATT DEF
And my Saber finish the turn with ~800 hp each time.

Well, if you CHOSE 1, next master you will fight is Clown-kun (and his servant : Lancer/Vlad Dracul) Rin's Lancer die during event
If you chose 2, next master against you is Gatou(mexican guy) and his servant, Arcueid...

And next master fight for both of them is Kuzuki + Assassin, so this choice to save Rin or Rani leads to an EXCLUSIVE boss fight...

(if YOU CHOSE 1, after Kuzuki and Assassin ,it would be Rani and her Berserker after Kuzuki, and final boss)
(After Kuzuki, it's Rin and her Lancer and after that final boss fight, IF YOU CHOSE 2)

Wait. Seriously ? I was away for a month so sorry for the slowpoke, but do you really mean that Saber is THAT Nero ?

The original 666 (or 646, whatever) ?

>>Gender-bent Francis Drake

stupidest. shit. ever.

I can think of 2 very good reasons why no one would have missed Frances being a woman.

they look to be about size DD.

>>101915

Nero as in Roman Emperor Nero.

>>101917
Yeah, that one.

Anyway: ahaha oh wow.

Wonder how Nasu will try to handle the persecutions and other stuff that made Nero infamous.

>>101916

You know, they never once in the game say that Francis Drake was secretly a woman. Unless there was something in all that dialog I skipped through, the closest they come to addressing it is in the character biography, where they just state that unlike in reality, in EXTRA Francis Drake was a woman.

If it really bothers you, just pretend that Shinji (being Shinji) couldn't stand to have a Servant without big tits to rape, and hacked the system to change Drake's appearance.

>>101939

ok...I guess I'll have to live with this.

>>101939
That is exactly how I rationalized it to myself.

He would do that, too.

>>101845
So, the same pic should exist with Rin, right?

>>101939

Exactly. I have no issue with ol' Franny being like this.. I like all of the Servant identities here.

My only problem is Nero, because if they were going to go through all the trouble to make a Saber clone, they could have reflected this with her true identity more, instead of just making her a shameless cash-in clone with no explaination.

>>101914

Rani is Sakura, right (>>101901 said she was)?

So you have to choose to save either Rin or Sakura? And then you have to fight them later on anyway?

I presume that whichever choice you make they die eventually, since it seems like only one person can survive the war.

>>101951
Rani is not Sakura. Don't know why he said that but she is definitely not Sakura because Sakura is here as the "school nurse"

About the choice : The one you decide to save loose her servant, but stay in game (don't know why)
You fight the other one as the 7th boss.

If you want to know what changes about boss changes regarding the choice, read next (spoiler)

If you chose to side with Rin, you fight (in order):
Clown + Lancer (dracul), Kuzuki + Assassin (forgot his name, Bruce Lee should be one of his fan), Rani + Berserker (Lu Bu), Leo + Saber (Gawain) and final boss aka Saver

If you chose to side with Rani, you'll fight :
Gatou + Berserker (Arcueid), Kuzuki + Assassin, Rin + Lancer (Cu Chulainn), Leo + Saber (Gawain) and final boss aka Saver

Just 2 boss fight change.
And you get to see the sexy ass of the one you saved later
(see >>101844 and >>101845 )

Saber should have been the guy they based off King Arthur. That would explain shit.

>>101971

Ryougi can kill servants.
Discuss

>>101954

>Rani is not Sakura. Don't know why he said that but she is definitely not Sakura because Sakura is here as the "school nurse"

Well, I knew that Sakura was the nurse, but I thought that Rani was just another name for the nurse (who for some reason turned out not to be an NPC).

>About the choice : The one you decide to save loose her servant, but stay in game (don't know why)
>You fight the other one as the 7th boss.

So, then, the one you save dies (after you defeat them in their boss battle), but the one who choose not to save doesn't die?

Hmm, that doesn't make much sense....

>>101971

I guess this finally proves that

puts on sunglasses

Shiki can kill Servants

>>101973

>So, then, the one you save dies (after you defeat them in their boss battle), but the one who choose not to save doesn't die?

During the event, Rani kinda summon a nuclear bomb.
In both choices, you will end up fighting (surviving) Lu Bu.
If you chose to side with Rin, Rin's Lancer end to attack Rani. Then everyone got TP back (IIRC), except Lancer who got his ass blasted. Rin gets hurt.
If you chose to side with Rani, after surviving Lu Bu's assault, Lancer attacks Rani. Everyone got TP back, except Lu Bu.

It was more or less like that. I wish I could make a video of both cutscene, but I don't know how...

>>101971
So, about what she said, anon translated this

>Found you.
>Don't move, you'll make the hundredth

>>101975

Yeah, but when you defeat someone, they seemingly get deleted (and thus killed). So, if you have to fight them in a later boss battle, then they will die afterwards (and as a result of your actions, at that), whereas if they lose their servant and you don't have to fight them then presumably they won't get deleted....

>>101980

Right. And if you choose to save Rin, she loses Lancer but survives the battle and is taken out of the game. You later fight Rani.

Same thing goes for Rani, but the other way around. If you choose to save her, she loses Berserker, and is removed from the game. You later fight Rin.

Whoever you choose to save, you save. It's not that complicated.

>>101980
No one get deleted during the event.
The one you save lose her servant. She doesn't get deleted because you saved her using a Command seal to intrude their fight. (I'm not sure about that, but that seems to be the right answer). But if you loose, the one you save should loose too if that's the case.

You fight later the one you didn't save, the one that still have her servant. (she will be deleted because you'll win).
But the one you saved stays as long as you win (she appears in the end game)

>>101983

Ah, OK. I got the two mixed up, and thought you'd end up fighting the one you saved.

So, basically you have the choice of saving either Rani or Rin from deletion, by removing their servant without removing them (by some mechanism)?

>>101984
I am not sure about that.
(It would be cheat if someone could appear in your fight, and thus make you lose your servant...)
During the event, Lancer attacks Rani in both choices.

For saving Rin, maybe Lancer didnt get TP back because he was on Rani's side when red wall appears (and gets "BOOM"). And Rani doesnt get hurt by Lancer's attack IIRC (she was protected by LuBu) and with that, she could have TP back with lubu

For saving Rani, she got hurt by Lancer's attack and get unconcious. I think that protag TP back her, but not lubu somehow.

Maybe protag could only TP master and not servant. Thus the one saved lost her servant because of the bomb.

It would have been better if I could understand jap

I cant wait for Tohno/Nanaya to appear. If he's in the game. ;_;

>>101985

Well, I can't see any reason why the protagonist would want to save their servants, since that means that he'll have to kill them later on. So maybe he chose to save Rani/Rin and not Lu Bu/Lancer, in order that they not die later on....

>>101993
Well I haven't thought about that and that may be the case.
I wish I could make videos, or at least, some screenshot so someone could translate ...
(i don't know how..)

Guuuys....

PLEASE, please, someone tell me that this one scene isnt an implied Sexscene but the stuff they did in Realta Nua or something like tha.

...Because if this is a sexscene, then it is absurd, and misplaced fanservice. I can't imagine Rin doing someone she never met before nor loves...so someone please say it's a misunderstanding QQ

>>101997
You mean about

>(see >>101844 and >>101845 ) ?

Well, Saber (maybe the other servant too?) got badly injured against Assassin. So Rani (I think if you saved rin, Rin would be doing that too) fixed her up.

Now that I think about it, could archer be injured too ? Rin/Rani (and mostly Rin) would be happy to fix Emiya...

>>101998

>Now that I think about it, could archer be injured too ? Rin/Rani (and mostly Rin) would be happy to fix Emiya...

Thats why I ask. Yeah, Archer was injured and there was a scene with Rin. However, this Rin never interacted with Archer before, so...yeah. To the contrary with FSN-Rin, this...doesnt make that much sense.

So...since Rani/Rin did fix the female Servants too, Imma asume that they pulled the Realta Nua-version. Or atleast that's what I hope...

Just someone prove me wrong on Rin doing a guy she doesnt know... ;_;

>>101997
Okay why do you even think there's a sex scene? We're barely seeing a girl not completely dressed on, nothing else the hospital bed. Sakura interrupts you.

>>101999
Well, remember that you saved her before from data delete. Plus maybe she'll be deleted if protag loose. That may be the reason
(Well, Fate Rin would have never done that to an unknown guy, but since it's another universe, maybe...)

>>102000
If you talk to Sakura during the event, she "fufufu" at you. So ...

>>102000

I think that it is one because a) in the morning, before the scene when you seem to talk about it Rin goes EWWWW, KYAAAH?! and Tsundere. b) Barely clothed girls and a wounded servant? Just why should they be barely clothed...?
c) When the door opens Rin/Rani and your Servant get startled and you fly out. And Sakura tells you to leave them alone...so...yeah. Thats why it seemed like one to me.

...If someone with the knowledge of japanese would enlighten me I'd be happy and thankful.

...Atleast that's why I assumed

>>102001

It's not even a matter of FSN-Rin and alternate universe Extra-Rin, so much as it is FSN-Rin and a person from an alternate universe who is only tangentially related to the original version. More like a separate entity than an alternate version. Hell, she doesn't even really look the same outside of SE.RA.PH. No reason for her to act the same either.

I have only one question.

Is Extra Gilgamesh confirmed or not?

>>102004
No, but they kept discovering, so it might be possible.

I still scratch my head at "Saver" and not "Savior". I always thought that was just a bad romanization when applied to proto-Saber.
It makes it sound like Buddha will save you 30% off if you shop at his hardware store.

>>102007
Look at a dictionary.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/saver
Also "lifesaver"

Saber finally revealed me her true name.
Well, I got the impression during her speech that she is trying to defend herself from accusations ... (Or maybe that's just an impression)
But protag says that she (protag) believes in her (or something like that) and saber answers "Thank you, Master. I will protect you till the very end" (i'm pretty sure of it).

SPOILERS I guess

>>102010
For all the differences between the two gender bent Sabers there are, Nasu clearly wanted to tie them together in some ways too.

I want to watch them comfort each other.

Of course that's kind of funny, making parallels between King Arthur and Emperor Nero.

>>102012
"Me who always loved people but never was loved"
wtf

>>102014
Nero was tsundere for Rome.

>>102014
Nero was an unfortunate attention whore.

>Participate in the Olympics
>Lose
>Bribe judges for the trophies

HE JUST WANTED TO BE LOVED, OKAY?
BURNING DOWN ROME WAS A CRY FOR ATTENTION

Still concerned about those persecutions.

>>102003

Is that the official outside-the-Matrix Tohsaka design?

>>102020
It seems to be the Fate/The Fact book that comes with the special edition. Is there any archive of scans or pictures of the full thing yet?

What era is technology stuck in outside of the virtual reality simulator on the moon again?

>>102022

2030.

Also...GAH! what the hell am I supposed to do? I'm already at Assassin and barely know anything about my own Servant!

vc: Rose

>>102023
That's the year, but technology is being held back to somewhere in the 1900's. I thought.

>>102024
If I understood correctly, the year is later that 2030, and the technology is kept at how it was in 2030.

>>102023
The hell? Then why does Rin and Shinji look exactly the same as they were FSN?

>>102027

"Shinji" is actually an eight-year-old Japanese game prodigy, while "Rin" is a resistance fighter descended from an illegitimate child Tokiomi had while traveling abroad back before the main branch of the Tohsaka family collapsed in the 1990s. They look the same as the old characters because that's just what their avatars look like. Don't overthink it.

>>102025

The world in the early 2030s, but technology is being kept at around the level it was in the early years of the 21st century by the Western European Zaibatsu. Though the Zaibatsu themselves have much better technology, and it seems that computing technology in general is more advanced than it is today, despite the restrictions.

>>102027
What are you surprised at? Did it make more sense to you when you thought they were the same characters in 2030 and still looked the same as 25 years earlier?

>technology is being kept at around the level it was in the early years of the 21st century

Way to set a story 20 years in the future without bothering to think up crazy technological progress. Just take what exists right now and say it was locked as that.

>>102045

Just seems like a pretty standard cyberpunk formula to me. Giant evil corporations control everything and stagnate technology while keeping all the futuristic goodies for themselves. Drop the mongrels a bone or two every once and a while to keep them complacent, but increase the ubiquity of computers to keep your stranglehold on the flow of information going (but really it's to give the hacker main characters an excuse for having what's essentially cyber-magic).

I'm stuck at the beginning, after talking to Tohsaka at the rooftop, Issei appears, then afterwards no progress. I tried talking to everyone and got nothing. Help?

>>102044
I didn't know the game was set in the future, that's why I was surprised. But it seems characters like Rin and Shinji aren't the same as their FSN counterparts, so now it makes sense. Since it would be stupid for a person to look exactly the same as their were 25 years ago. But now it seems this game is set in a whole different universe, or a different reality, it would be more appropriate to call it as such.

Times like these make me wish I had a modded PSP. I'd play this right now even if I don't know Japanese. Just because the odds of it coming out in America are very slim to none.

>>102050

I don't! This shit is WAY too convoluted, and if I'm going to play it, I want to know exactly what the hell is going on.

Carry on you guys. I'm happy just reading up on this here. I still haven't recovered from Saber being Nero.

>>102045

Also, I should point out that it's not quite the same as today's world. It says that the level of technology is equal to that of the early 2000s, but that they've also achieved world peace and the end of poverty. So basically, even if the technology isn't very advanced, it's available to everyone, everywhere. Probably means no more 1st and 3rd world countries, but rather everywhere is the 1st world.

Is /extra even connected to /stay night at all character wise? Don't say EMIYA,cause he's already a contradiction to his existance

>>102071

well if you say it like that, no

it's more like people playing an mmo based on FSN.
I guess you could say it's a little like the .hack games.

>>102071

>Don't say EMIYA,cause he's already a contradiction to his existance

What?

>>102071
Didn't someone say in this thread that "Rin"'s player is a Tohsaka, although an illegitimate child? That'd be proof it's the same universe at least.

>>102071

>implying that Archer is too awesome to be a possible connection to F/SN

Oh, well...dohoho...anyway.

Well, all Fate-characters seem to act the same way. Rin is still Tsundere, Shinji is still Shinji, etc. Dunno about Kotomine tho. He didn't troll anyone yet...(...that makes me kinda worry.)

Can't say the same about the Tsukihime and Rakkyo-characters tho.

>>102076

Or it could be an alternate universe who happened to have similiar people in it.

Fate/Extra comic http://u.115.com/file/f9d548d33

Nasu said early on that it's a parallel universe.

>>102072

>it's more like people playing an mmo based on FSN

no

>>102080
Is that the same that as posted earlier?

>>102078
Well, Kotomine introduces himself as an NPC.

Which really just makes him more suspicious to me.

>>102084

True. Especially the way he laughs it off that one time you ask him if he's going to be your next opponent. He acts too much like an NPC to be an NPC, he's gotta be up to something.

IIRC, it was mentioned that heroes from other universes can be summoned as well since there is only one Throne for them all.

Dunno how that fits with the computer thingie. All, how the hell did become a Heroic Spirit ?

>>102087
It's an electronical Grail War.
Heroes come from a database on Moon that record everything down on Earth. Heroes are just data.
(Well, the exception could be Arcueid, since she get out of this electronical world)

>>102089
It must mean that there can only be one Arcueid/Type-Moon.

>>102050

You do realize you don't need to mod a PSP in order to play imported games right? UMD doesn't have region locks.

>>102089
I know that already.

>>102105

Yeah, but I'm not paying $70-100 for a game I can't understand. Especially an RPG. Especially a Fate RPG.

Anyone have a torrent for this?

Anyone else pissed that the most famous archer in history has such lame stats?

>>102149

No.

>>102035

>the main branch of the Tohsaka family collapsed in the 1990s

When did original FSN take place anyway? I'm guessing this is an event that only happened in Fate/Extra's parallel universe.

>>102155

According to Fuyuki, the fourth war happened in the mid 1990s... I wonder if it's referring to the fact that after Tokiomi dies, Rin is the only Tohsaka left in the main branch. Though, reading the timeline on the site makes me wonder what happened to Aoi (Rin's mother). Supposedly she and Rin left Fuyuki City for the duration of the fourth war, but she's never mentioned again. Unless this anon missed something?

>>102149
the archer class isn't about stats, just look at EMIYA.

>>102188

i asked someone this ones and was told she's in a mental institute. apparently all the shit from the forth grail war was to much for her.

She died.

Of a BROKEN HEART.

Okay maybe it was more because of a cold.

>>102202
If I've learned anything from manga and anime, it's that Japanese people are incredibly weak to colds.

>>102203
Indeed, it's a wonder there isn't a genocide every time it rains in Japan.

>>102188

Or Fuyuki is not that reliable. <.<

>>102208

Nah, Fuyuki is pretty accurate.

Clinton was still president in Fate Zero so.......

>>102196

I was under the impression that the Kariya Matou choked her to death out of love.

HF4 - 1994
HF5 - 2004

>>102213
Kariya chokes her after she gets pissed at him when believing he killed Tokiomi, but she didn't die from it, she remained in a wheelchair. Rin mentions her in the epilogue, and points out she's lost her mind and doesn't even understand that Tokiomi and Sakura are gone. But we don't know what happened to her before the 5th war. She probably dies just like that.
>>102149
Because Robin Hood was known for his fighting prowess and amazing body strength amirite
Dude, he's an Archer, that's how he's supposed to be.

>>101971
>>101979

>Don't move, you'll make the hundredth

It's entirely possible that she could have killed 99 people.
We fought 7 master, who have each beaten X person.
Shinji : we are his first, so he beat nobody
Blackmore : we are his second, so he beat 1
etc...

So, all the master we fought have beaten 21 (0 + 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6).
Plus the master we beat (excluding saver) = 28
128 - 28 - 1 (MC guy) = 99.

Since the way stats are increased in this game is by spending skill points you get from levelling, you can probably just blame his Master anyway.

Personally I was intrigued by the novel concept of an Archer using archery instead of swords.

>>102231

>>Personally I was intrigued by the novel concept of an Archer using archery instead of swords.

yeah ain't that a kick in the head...

>>102230
Except Ryougi is a weak human girl. If she were a Servant, her stats shouldn't even be E.

>>102238
Except that it's not KnK's Ryougi, so she may be capable here to fight servants. And she is located in a tough dungeon, where bees' strengh rivals with Saber's strengh...

(My Saber with stat : STR D CON D and other E, without NP, beat Rider "in a fair fight" altough Rider stats > my saber's, how do you explain that?...)

>>102188

This is a parallel universe. Here, Rin is Tokiomi's illegitimate daughter, and thus isn't part of the main branch of the Tohsaka family. The events of Fate/Zero presumably didn't happen (or, else, Tokiomi was killed in the fourth Grail War with no heir to succeed him).

>>102274

She's actually the child (or grandchild) of Tokiomi's illegitimate foreigner-child. The timeline doesn't really make sense otherwise, since she's still a teenager, and Tokiomi still died roundabouts the time of the 4th Grail War.

>This is a parallel universe. Here, Rin is Tokiomi's illegitimate daughter

It's not the same Rin as in FSN.

>The timeline doesn't really make sense otherwise, since she's still a teenager, and Tokiomi still died roundabouts the time of the 4th Grail War.

Why does it not make sense? Tokiomi gets an illegitimate child who would probably be about Rin's age (give or take 5 years), and that child would have a child about the same time Rin would have a child (give or take 5 years). If Rin is a teen in early 2000s, 2030 sounds pretty good for another of Tokiomi's kid to have a kid who may be a teenager. How does the timeline not make sense?

>>102321

You just said exactly what I said. I was simply commenting on how the Rin we see in Extra can't be Tokiomi's illegitimate child, but is rather descended from him/her.

Has anyone beaten it yet? Can someone fully explain what the hell is actually going on in this game?

Oh boy, just beat Assassin today.
I SWEAR, everyone who enjoyed fighting Vlad, will die of excitement against Assassin.

(cough Archer: 1700HP, Assassin: atleast 20000HP, the EX-move he pulls all the time hits 1,6k...oh and sometime's Bishuki seals Guard. Yaaaay.)

>>102232

thirding, as much as I do like my sword-spamming gamebreaker archers.

Good End Achaa pic, so it's canon pre-Counter Guardian Shirou later in life. Apareently, he learned some of his dad's skills.

>>102356

Thanks to you Sir, I can rest in peace now.

>>102356
somehow I imagined him like this, Nasu you need to write more about this part of his life!

>>102356

Uhm...Is this person next to him reaaally Kiritsugu?

Oh and if you find more ending pics, wether normal, good, or of any servant, mind posting them please? >:

>>102362

That must be Shirou's partner. Counter Guardian Issei.

Make it happen, Nasu.

Can someone give me the stats+NP's of Saver (Gawain) ?

btw I heard there's a thread on /jp/ about this game...but where? I can't find it...

Anyone mind linking this clueless anon to the page?

>>102356

What? Canon? As in... F/SN canon? What?

Explain, please?

>>102375
http://boards.4chan.org/jp/res/5770290

>>102377

Thanks bro.

>>102376
Fate/Extra is canon. Is another Nasuverse, but the base seems to be the standard one.

>>102376

There is only one Archer. Anywhere, in the multiverse of the Nasuverse, in the throne, etc. Since Nasu declared Extra canon, that means the Archer here is the canon, EMIYA Archer, and this is a pic from his pre-CG past. Hence it's canon. I think it looks like Touko, short light blue hair, and if it's post HF/Illya-Route he would probably know her for the body he got.

>>102381
Ohhhh, so that means the fact that Ryougi killed 99 Servants is canon too, I get that a lot.

>>102382

Just as canon as that you can beat Ryougi who killed 99 servants and Arc.

I love this game for being some kind of bitchslap to powerlevel-discussions...

>>102381

My bet is on Ciel or some NPC who Nasu didn't reveal yet, who might have been EMIYA's teampartner or tutor...

>>102382
They're in VR, I seriously doubt that standard powerlevels work the same here.

And this is a fucking RPG. This kind of stuff is mandatory.

Vectorized the good ending pic because of the lulz.

>>102383
Except that Ryougi would never be able to touch Arcueid no matter how much her stats are boosted. She will never be able to see her lines because her eyes work according to the lifespan of her target, and Arcueid has millions of years left, so...

>>102388

If you want to have a discussion about how no one can beat Arc or whoever for whatever reason, then post a new Thread.
Inb4 this Thread is about MEoDP, Crimson Moon and Shiki's 3rd personality when I check it tomorrow.

Mein gott, that picture is erotic.

Always thought that Aachaa was some kind of crazed gunman in life. None of this silly "I ONLY USE SWORDS LIKE A KNIGHT" stuff he gets in fanart.

>>102387
He really did become his father, didn't he?

And now I'm picturing Archer as something like a James Bond type . . . It is hot.

Also, could be Shinji. So, was Archer's lost lover Shinji?

so who is the villain and why?

they better be badass since there is no Gilgamesh

>Also, could be Shinji. So, was Archer's lost lover Shinji?

>Implying that standing next to someone makes you one's lover

...

>>102382
Are you sure that she is real Ryogi, not some bug-hacker-gamebreaker-etc? I mean, her identy was confirmed? Becouse, as Extra takes place in 2032 real Ryogi should be about 60 years old.

>>102398

Alternate universe. It allows for wacky things like people being born thirty years later than they would be born in other universes.

"Sorry, but you're going to have to die. It seems that if I kill a hundred of you things, I get to return to my original world."

Looks more like she somehow ended up in the Fate/Extra world from her original one. Arc looks to be the same way, as she said she was returning to her own world at the end. Or so I heard.

>>102400

"Nasu-sama promised me to send me back home if I help him trolling you!"

>the real Ryougi Shiki
>can kill servants

If Nasu didn't want years of retarded power level discussion, then he shouldn't have used such power levels in the first place.

That said, I still laugh and enjoy every moment such discussion participants get kicked in the teeth.

>>102400
And what if you beat her? She will die or return to her world?

>>102402
I'm a bit surprised that no one said something like ''No, Extra-servants aren't like Stay-Night-servants, they're just software!''. It makes sense or something?

>>102369
MAKE IT HAPPEN NASU

>I'm a bit surprised that no one said something like ''No, Extra-servants aren't like Stay-Night-servants, they're just software!''

Prolly because it was obvious...(Oh hai thar EX-EMIYA)

>>102405

>Extra-servants aren't like Stay-Night-servants, they're just software!

They're not just software.

So Arc without Mad Enhancement is
筋力：Ｂ＋ 耐久：Ｃ 敏捷：Ｂ 魔力：Ｄ 幸運：Ｅ
Also Arc's Master lowering her stats is bull shit that Arc Believers want to believe.

Guys, Extra = RPG.

Cameos in RPG are fucking common. And NEVER make any sense. See Tales of..

>>102409

>Also Arc's Master lowering her stats is bull shit that Arc Believers want to believe.

That's not bullshit. For example, her "True Ancestor" stats disappears because she is a Servant... (was EX, became X by being a servant)

Or look at FSN : Take Saber's stat with Shirou, Rin and Kiritsugu...

>>102409
Or...

筋力：A 耐久：Ｃ+++ 敏捷：Ｂ+++ 魔力：Ｄ+++ 幸運：Ｅ+++

Depending if you see modifiers as "rank-up" or not.

>>102408
I know, it's to simple to call them software. But that is besides the point. They're still diferent, so debates wouldn't end with Extra.

>>102409
Can extra-masters make stats lower?

>>102402

who said servants? she could have just been referring to the data monsters in the dungeon. thus explaining what she's doing in there in the first place. she might not see a difference between your servant and those thing.

>>102416
In Extra you start off with shit-tier stats. Then you level to get skill points. Then you spend them to raise your Servant's stats. So I'm not sure what all the complaints about THIS CHARACTER'S STATS ARE TOO LOW/HIGH! are about, unless none of the people arguing are actually playing the game...

Geh... so.... I know this'd be a hassle, but could someone lay out the main backstory of this game?

This whole thing is seriously hurting my head...

>> (was EX, became X by being a servant)

i don't think that's how stats work

>>102423

>i don't think that's how stats work

No, but obviously the fact that a True Ancestor became somehow a slave of a magus remove that.
I think It's explained in the game.
Here is a photo I took, so if someone is willing to translate it...

That picture you have there is describing the Original One skill which lets her raise her parameters above whoever she is fighting by receiving backup from the planet. Her Master didn't understand this at all so this skill isn't working at all.
So I think Arcueid is still Base Arc before Gaia gives her the Planet Boost.

>>102424

Well, the glare in that photo turned half of the kanji into illegible blobs, so I can't really translate it. It looks like it's talking about how for whatever reason, she's not receiving backup from the Planet, though.

>>102429
What are you talking about? This is 100% legible.

>>102429
Here, the best I could take

>>102426
So, her master is somehow restraining her?
(At least for this, maybe not for other stats like STR CON ..)

>>102431
I don't know the story since I don't have the game so I'm going to guess that he thought that making Arc a Berserker would have made her uber, when it actually did the opposite and disabled her planet backup skill.

>>102430

I'm sure it is, if you've got Archer-vision, or you already know the words being used and can tell what it says based on shape and context. To those of us that still have to use dictionaries, though, it just looks like a cluster of shiny white blobs. The second picture was much easier to read.

>>102435
I think people would prefer a translation from people who already know the words, to be honest.

>>102436

Probably, but you never really know when they're going to be hanging around. This is the internet-age, people care more for speed than quality.

Besides just because my kanji-reading level is pretty atrocious doesn't mean I'm completely useless, you know.

>>102424
"Ultimate One"
Oh, shit.
>>102431
Ultimate One.
A skill that allows her to always be one step above her opponent thanks to receiving back-up from the planet.
... Or so it should, but it seems her Master doesn't understand it and it's completely disabled.

>>102409
Two of her stats went from A to C, and her EX ability became void. See>>101810

>>102451
Well, she is kinda like an Ultimate One, at least the Ultimate One on planet earth.

>Well, she is kinda like an Ultimate One, at least the Ultimate One on planet earth.

Ultimate One = TYPE. It was never said straight out that Arcueid is Type-Earth, the best we got is Archetype-Earth, and it was still suspicious if it wasn't something else, like a "beta version" and not quite yet the Type-Earth like how ORT is Type-Mercury. If she's really definitely the Ultimate One of Earth, this does equate her to Type-Earth.
But then again this Arcueid there could not quite be the one we know - or rather, the one we know is not quite this one yet.

>the best we got is Archetype-Earth,

What? Archetype Earth is Arcueid in her true capacity, she is pretty much an Ultimate One. She receives back up from the planet and listens to the will of the planet, what makes her different from the other Ultimate Ones?

>But then again this Arcueid there could not quite be the one we know - or rather, the one we know is not quite this one yet.

Which Arcueid are you talking about? the one in Fate/Extra or the full powered Arcueid in MBAA. I don't know about the former, but the full powered Arcueid in MBAA is the Arcueid WE all know in her full capacity as the touch of the planet.

>What? Archetype Earth is Arcueid in her true capacity, she is pretty much an Ultimate One. She receives back up from the planet and listens to the will of the planet, what makes her different from the other Ultimate Ones?

First, you talk like "Ultimate Ones" = "those who receive backup from the planet" and that's false. the Ultimate Ones, the Types, are simply the strongest creatures of the planet. Gaia was stated not be the only one without a Type - at a point where we did know Arcueid, ergo, rcueid was not Type-Gaia or Type-Earth. This was still supposed to be valid even when we had Archetype:Earth, because the "Gaia does not have a Type" was still not contradicted, it was not expliccitely stated that "Arcueid at full power becomes type-Earth." That's a fact, so stop acting like it's natural that Arcueid at full power is Type-Earth as if having Gaia's back-up was proof enough.
The one thing that changes with Extra is tha, this time around, she specifically has a skill called Ultimate One.

>the full powered Arcueid in MBAA is the Arcueid WE all know in her full capacity as the touch of the planet.

I'm saying this was not officially confirmed. She was related to the will of the planet, but the old "Gaia does not have a Type" was still true until officially revoked.

>Gaia was stated not be the only one without a Type

Woops sorry, one negation too many. Gaia was stated to be the only one without a Type.
Anyway, the one definition from Notes that we had about Ultimate Ones had nothing to do with "listening to the will of their planet" or receiving backup from it. They're just the strongest creature on it.

This skill maybe related to the fact that she is almost perfect copy of the Ultimate One of Moon. Or to her status as perfect True Ancestor. Or just to be cool, ultimate skill.

>I'm saying this was not officially confirmed

Not officially confirmed you say? That's not what her profile says: http://www.e56.info/mbaaps2/

The Princess of the True Ancestors. Arcueid's true form.
That which shows her side as the touch of the planet as the True Ancestor of highest grade of purity.
Not an alter ego of Arcueid, but one and the same as the normal her.
This version of her temporarily borrowed this body.
For Arcueid (her body) to become this form, she must take back her stolen hair.

It's officially confirmed that AE is just the "normal" Arc being controlled by the Counter Force. But anyway, Arcueid (in her true capacity) is the strongest being on the planet, if not, who else could it be?

Humanity is the pinnacle of creation, and not only Arcueid was made by using the best human body, but she has the powers of a spirit of nature + Crimson Moon's powers. This probably makes her an spirit of the highest class on the same level or above Divine Spirit (and unlike them, she doesn't need the power of humanity).

>The Princess of the True Ancestors. Arcueid's true form.
>That which shows her side as the touch of the planet as the True Ancestor of highest grade of purity.
>Not an alter ego of Arcueid, but one and the same as the normal her.
>This version of her temporarily borrowed this body.
>For Arcueid (her body) to become this form, she must take back her stolen hair.

this describes her as the strongest planet's toy, but we still have the "Gaia does not have a Type" and Types are still not described as they planet's toy.

>But anyway, Arcueid (in her true capacity) is the strongest being on the planet, if not, who else could it be?

But this was true before Arcueid too and even before Crimson Moon. And yet, it's still a fact that Gaia was described as "the only one without a Type." So you first have to explain why there was this sentence before trying to point out anything else about Arcueid being the planet's will, or even about Arcueid being the strongest. Even without her, there should still be one who is "the strongest" and we still had the description that said Gaia did not have a Type.

What did you think the Type in Type Moon, Type Mercury meant the whole time? It was obviously from ArcheType. Here, read this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arche

I mean this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archetype

>>102506
Got some bad news for you, chief. Even if that's full-power Arc, it just means she's back to what she was when she was first born, when she didn't have to fight a bloodlust. She's not an Aristotle. If she WAS, she wouldn't be Arcueid--she'd be Crimson Moon Brunestud as he intended when he created the True Ancestor race.

>>102522
That's true. The bloodlust is her single flaw, it would never dissapear. The best she can do is get the fruit of Einnashe, but of course, even with that, the bloodlust won't completely go away forever. But anyway, who said all the Aristotles needed to be perfect? They are just the strongest life forms of their respective planets.

>>102527
So, where has she be equated to an Aristotles? By her name Archetype:Earth? Why iks it Archetype and not Type, do you think it's the exact same, should Type-Moon now be known as Archetype:Moon maybe?

Uhm...about Fate/Extra...

>>102528
Uh, I never explicitly stated that she was an Aristotle, in all my previous posts I said that she was pretty much one, since she is the strongest "life-form" (emphasis on "life form") on earth.

>>102531
So she's not. Okay. What was the point again of saying "she's almost one?"

>>102532
Well, there is no doubt that she is the best candidate. And well, the name of her skill in Fate/Extra seems to imply that.

>>102522
If she turned into Brunestrud, she would become Type Moon but since she is Arcueid, she is Type Earth

>>102530

Yeah it was nice when we could talk about that, wasn't it?

>>102506
Pretty sure Crimson Moon>Arcueid

>>101809
Is there are more complete set of this with all the servants? Including Protag's servants.
Also,I love that they had cameo appearances of Ryougi Shiki, Arcueid,and EMIYA. My 3 favorite characters from each series respectively. Ryougi's the secret boss for Extra,but did she give any hint of how she got stuck in this world?

>>102567

I wouldn't call Archer's appearance a Cameo...

Uhm...while we're at it again.

1) I heard (read: pretty unreliable sauce) that while Archer lets you use UBW, he doesn't reveal his name. That it says UNKNOWN instead of EMIYA.

From the screens, it really seems that way, since it isn't written in the Katakana I remember...sooo...does it say "Emiya Shirou" in Kanji, or really Unknown? (It'd be odd if they changed EMIYA to Emiya...but everything's possible. Meh.)

2) Are there any translations of the skills, keywords, the text of the keywords, the settings, etc?

>>102568

Well, the screenshot from earlier in the thread just has him listed as nameless/anonymous, and that's Matrix Level E, which means that's probably all you're going to get out of him.

>I wouldn't call Archer's appearance a Cameo...

He didn't say Archer, but a cameo by EMIYA, though, as in, "that nobody whom nobody cared about during a certain war who tried to save a bunch of people and got executed for it." Or in other words, the Shirou that became a CG, but before his death.
And yes, Archer is listed as "unknown".

>>102576

Hmm. Name unknown, only C rank Independent Action, Eye of the Mind (Fake)...

Clearly, we have an imposter on our hands, people. A Faker, if you will.

Wait, pre-death EMIYA's in the game? Like in backstory or what?

>>102579
His ending is clearly him while he is alive. But I don't know what's going on when this image show up. See >>102356 >>102387

[CLASS] Berserker
[MASTER] Gatou, Monji
[TRUE NAME] Arcueid
[STATUS] STR A+, CON B, AGI A, MGI C, LUC D
[KEYWORD]
[Vampire.....?]
Blood-sucking monsters.
Made out to be creatures that are not one of the Lord's creations, and depicted in a certain religion as clear-cut Adversaries.
Are said to drink the blood of men, not grow in age, are unknown to death, and have rule over many monsters.

[True Ancestor]
The general name for those lifeforms believed to make up the majority of vampires when classified as those who suck blood
True Ancestors are beings in whom the will of the planet has appeared and, as in the legends, are said to drink the blood of men in amusement.

[Noble Phantasm]
[Blut de Scbwester]
The contract of the blood sisters.
More like a property of hers, rather than a Noble Phantasm.
Her body, the touch of the Earth, terraforms her surroundings.
Therefore, in the moon cell which follows the laws of the moon, she causes a great deal of gravity load to occur.
Servants and Magi recreated by the rules of the moon cell are placed under 6 times the gravity when before her.

[Skill]
[Berserkering [A -> C]]
Raises the rank of the parameters at the cost of much of her sanity.
....However, because of her Master's misconception, this doesn't seem to be working right.

[Mystic Eyes[A -> C]]
She has mystic eyes which charm the souls of those they see and those who see them,
but because of her Master's misconception, this doesn't seem to be working right.

[Original One [EX→ x]]
Ultimate One
A skill which brings her to specs a level above those she faces by receiving the backup of the planet.
....However, because of her Master's misconception, this doesn't seem to be working one bit.

[BACKGROUND]
[Personal Background]
The surviving member of the royalty of the True Ancestors, those who make up the majority of vampires. Apparently.
The aspect of her as a vampire is also strong, but she is a type of spirit of the Earth.

Best thought of as being a typhoon, earthquake, or other natural phenomenon's personification.

Rumored to be an original creation from the Moon Cell.

>>102589
Well that clarifies one argument.

>>102594
Which one?

>>102589

>Therefore, in the moon cell which follows the laws of the moon, she causes a great deal of gravity load to occur.
>Servants and Magi recreated by the rules of the moon cell are placed under 6 times the gravity when before her.

Could someone explain this ?

>>102598
Blut Der Schwester (mistakenly written as "die" instead of "der") is her Last Arc or whatever in MB, where she summons something that looks like the Moon onto your face so you get crushed. Apparently, here on the Moon, when weakened, it's "only" a gravitational pressure about 6 times normal gravity. You get crushed, and the surrounding area is also crushed and terraformed into whatever she wants.

It's terraformed into the Earth in this case.

>Eye of the Mind (Fake)

Waitaminute, Diarmuid and Archer are the only ones that acutally have Eye of the Mind (True). What's this bait and switch all about?

>>102589>>, I really would like to read info like that about the rest. Vlad, Robin Hood, Neron. Well, right now I'm more interested in Robin.

>>102589
Thank you so much for translating this. So it seems she is not the real Arcueid, after all.

>>102642
Or it's just that this world doesn't know her, like Rakkyo world doesn't know her, that's why her background says "rumored to be an invention of the moon cell thingy." On everything else, she's pretty much just as we know her. The only odd thing is that her power back-up ability is called Ultimate One, for some reason, without making the connection very clear.

>>102642
She's the real Arc, play the game.

>>102689
I have to wonder how many of the people having in-depth arguments about the game here have actually played the game, to be honest.

>>102573

IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW

>>102637
If you can get the text then sure

so wait, Rin is blonde in fate extra?

>>102699
The Rin in Fate/Extra, who is not the one from FSN, is blond, yes.

but in the game she has black hair, she dyed her hair, what for?

>>102706
That's just some sort of an avatar

It's also the reason why "Shinji" looks like Shinji. There's this 8 year old hacker genius and when he plays in the Grail War he uses an avatar that looks like Shinji.

Yes, she is blond.

>>102709
WOW ...that is actually a little scary...

>>102710
"Scary" wut?
Moving on... If the MC is a virtual character, do you never see the face of the person playing him/her?

If I get it right. MC supposed to be sleeping in the lab somewhere else and Rin trying to find him/her(I chose to save Rin over Rani), so we never see their real face but only capsule that they sleeping in.

>>102709
Confirmed for Tokiomi boinking an Eldfeldt daughter

Where's mah Gilgamesh?

considering the style she looks cute, now Takeuchi Rin as blonde... dunno can someone photoshop that shit to see how it would look

>>102730
Ooh, one that fits my screen resolution, nice.

Where's this image from anyway? Looks like the official artist's work.

So, has anyone here found Ryougi yet?

I'm curious to see what happens

Nnnnngghhh... This is too much crossover to handle. Aoko now Ryougi this is just amazing.

>>102734

>MONSTER

LOL

Anybody know much about Tamamo-no-Mae's Noble Phantasms and abilities?

>>102743
Something about a mirror

>>102743
She makes everyone lose the game.

You know Saber being Nero is actually pretty cool in my book if you ask me. Makes her have more flaws. If they put in the persecutions, ok. King Arthur wasn't a saint either. Too bad they didn't make her fuck her sister due to a certain breakdown...

Too bad she ain't Julius Ceasar, at least then she would've slept around with Cleopatra, oh well have this cool Extra!Saber pic

>>102788
what I find funny is that why back when we first figured out that saber wasn't Arturia this time around, I thought to my self "a game replacing the hugely popular main character with a new one that just so happens to have the exact same character design to minimize fan revolt? where have i heard that be for?..."

I didn't say anything about then, but now that i've found out her name is Nero too, it just makes it all the more funny to me.

>>102789

Oh god I didn't even think of that.

I still hate both cases.

>>102789

Oh jesus. I never thought of it like that. Well, hopefully Fate/Extra's Nero won't be so generic as that one.

>>102795

>won't be

Lol, the game's already out, bro.

I like her, personally.

>>102796

Just because it's out, you know... Besides, like hell I'll be trying to play it right now. I'll probably just wait for it to come to America. I rather spend my time on more worthy PSP games.

>wait for it to come to America

Oh you poor thing.

Anyway, another scan. Mmmmm.

"The history of Nero’s reign is problematic in that no historical sources survived that were contemporary with Nero. These first histories at one time did exist and were described as biased and fantastical, either overly critical or praising of Nero. The original sources were also said to contradict on a number of events. Nonetheless, these lost primary sources were the basis of surviving secondary and tertiary histories on Nero written by the next generations of historians.

The bulk of what is known of Nero comes from Tacitus, Suetonius and Cassius Dio, who were all of the Patrician class. Tacitus and Suetonius wrote their histories on Nero over fifty years after his death, while Cassius Dio wrote his history over 150 years after Nero’s death. These sources contradict on a number of events in Nero’s life including the death of Claudius, the death of Agrippina and the Roman fire of 64, but they are consistent in their condemnation of Nero."

Basically, we almost know nothing on Nero.

In Nasuverse, Nero was a capable general fighter who indulged in debauchery and loved to have fun, and when Claudius died, rose up due to charisma. But while she loved the people and just wanted everyone to have a good time, people did not appreciate it and found her antics unfitting.
Enter such dissenters and christians setting Rome on fire and putting the blame on her.
So, even with the charisma and actual qualities, you are not allowed to have fun as a leader, is the lesson.
Suffered from headaches almost constantly, loved taking baths, loved singing and had almost divine luck.

But after her death, she was bashed and demonized by Historians.

;_;

>>102802

>loved singing

Well there's the problem, then.

>>102803
Yeah, she sucks at it.

Yeah but at least you can have fun with her it seems.

>>102802

>Enter such dissenters and christians setting Rome on fire and putting the blame on her

Ahaha oh wow, seriously ? That's how they explain it in the game ?

Well, I excepted this Saber to be some misunderstood tragic heroine like the original one, but I thought Nasu would add another depth to her. Regret of how her pursuit of fun bordered madness and hurt the country. Something as dark as his blaming the fire on the Christians and their torture would work just fine, so it's a pity if this is how it was handled.

>>102807
Well I for one time found interesting to see a almost only loathed and despised historical character in a more or less positive light.

>>102808
I guess I can see where you're coming from. As I said, I'd prefer if she wasn't so innocent and had a darker depth, but I guess they can't satisfy everyone.

To me, Caster was good enough for the "remembered as evil but she was really tormented" role, although she was a mythical character.